Shirley
06-16-2005, 10:28 PM
I read this book on the way down to and while in Florida... written by our own Vicki Taylor!
Great story... having taught middle school (these are high school kids) it really struck some chords with me, and I plan to share it with a former student with whom I'm frequently in touch. She'll be a sophomore this fall.
Vicki - the book was in the car! I should have had you sign it! :doh:
I would love to hear the comments of high schoolers who have read this book. It's quite startling in a few places, yet Vicki did her research... I wonder how seriously a teen would take the book...
We had a discussion tonight at the dinner table about drinking at IU -- Trevor shared where a student BEGGED not to be taken to the ER when he drank so much he could not ID the faces of kids he knew on the floor... they found him in his room, drinking alone, a freshman who weighed maybe 125... they (Trevor and floormates) forced him to go against his will, wrapped him in blankets, took him in Trevor's van, being the only vehicle he could lie down in, put plastic under him "in case", and drove him to the ER. None of the others had been drinking. This was your typical "college nerd" super-smart kid, as are all these kids, honors floor where Trevor was governor last year, and he just wanted to see what it was like to get drunk... and then he did it alone! and way over-did it at that!! He was young and very small for his age.
The ER emptied him out, put him on a catheter to "back flush" him and get saline / water into him faster (that is what FINALLY got his attention, btw), pumped saline into him via IV, and released him 5 hrs later. Trevor and floormates were with him all night. He's a nice kid, but never thanked them once for what they did for him! His parents in Nebraska probably learned of the incident when they got the bill, but the kid, being under 21, did NOT want to go b/c he "would get in trouble". Well, no one knows what might have happened if he hadn't gone, but Trevor and the other honors floormates knew darn well he needed to go and they physically forced him to go. This, however, was not a peer group frat-type activity... so some common sense and sober minds were at work on this kid's behalf.
There was a kid who died at IU a couple yrs ago b/c he refused to go to the ER when he did a "keg stand", fell over and hit his temple really hard, passed out briefly, came to, and refused to go to the ER. He wasn't that drunk, but was clearly injured. He refused to go due to his age and the fear of getting in trouble. He was a member of a frat, it was at a frat party. Three days later, he died of internal cranial bleeding. Trevor said all this kids' friends could do was call frequently and check on him, and he "seemed ok". Of course they could have done more, but kids don't think about things like that... they try to do the best they can, and try to honor their friends' requests and wishes... and then live with "if only's" for the rest of their lives. This incident was in the news a lot.
:(
Great story... having taught middle school (these are high school kids) it really struck some chords with me, and I plan to share it with a former student with whom I'm frequently in touch. She'll be a sophomore this fall.
Vicki - the book was in the car! I should have had you sign it! :doh:
I would love to hear the comments of high schoolers who have read this book. It's quite startling in a few places, yet Vicki did her research... I wonder how seriously a teen would take the book...
We had a discussion tonight at the dinner table about drinking at IU -- Trevor shared where a student BEGGED not to be taken to the ER when he drank so much he could not ID the faces of kids he knew on the floor... they found him in his room, drinking alone, a freshman who weighed maybe 125... they (Trevor and floormates) forced him to go against his will, wrapped him in blankets, took him in Trevor's van, being the only vehicle he could lie down in, put plastic under him "in case", and drove him to the ER. None of the others had been drinking. This was your typical "college nerd" super-smart kid, as are all these kids, honors floor where Trevor was governor last year, and he just wanted to see what it was like to get drunk... and then he did it alone! and way over-did it at that!! He was young and very small for his age.
The ER emptied him out, put him on a catheter to "back flush" him and get saline / water into him faster (that is what FINALLY got his attention, btw), pumped saline into him via IV, and released him 5 hrs later. Trevor and floormates were with him all night. He's a nice kid, but never thanked them once for what they did for him! His parents in Nebraska probably learned of the incident when they got the bill, but the kid, being under 21, did NOT want to go b/c he "would get in trouble". Well, no one knows what might have happened if he hadn't gone, but Trevor and the other honors floormates knew darn well he needed to go and they physically forced him to go. This, however, was not a peer group frat-type activity... so some common sense and sober minds were at work on this kid's behalf.
There was a kid who died at IU a couple yrs ago b/c he refused to go to the ER when he did a "keg stand", fell over and hit his temple really hard, passed out briefly, came to, and refused to go to the ER. He wasn't that drunk, but was clearly injured. He refused to go due to his age and the fear of getting in trouble. He was a member of a frat, it was at a frat party. Three days later, he died of internal cranial bleeding. Trevor said all this kids' friends could do was call frequently and check on him, and he "seemed ok". Of course they could have done more, but kids don't think about things like that... they try to do the best they can, and try to honor their friends' requests and wishes... and then live with "if only's" for the rest of their lives. This incident was in the news a lot.
:(