View Full Version : Corn Snake laid her eggs!
Shirley
06-16-2005, 09:49 PM
Ella, Troy's corn snake, laid her eggs! All 13 of them!
:dance::woot::dance:
Shirley
06-16-2005, 11:13 PM
Here are pics of the parents:
We did not name "Sam&Ella" btw... hear the pun?
we gave them to a friend, whose kids "outgrew them", and fortunately he offered them back to us... b/c in the meantime, Pitre died of malignant kidney cancer at the age of 11.
They hatched at our house about 9 yrs ago, then came back to us about 4 or 5 yrs ago.
Sam is the brighter-colored of the two.
Shirle, I only see boxes with a red X in them.
Snake! AHHH! Help! Snake! Oh I don't see anything but red X's...Oh no! The red X's are slithering! LOL! Nope I don't see any snakes...not that I am a snake person! I had too many experiences with rattlesnakes while living in Western Kansas...can't deal with any snakes! *Bill fainted*
I'm with you Bill! :agree: I hate snakes :help: but can enjoy looking at an egg.
I'm with you Bill! :agree: I hate the sight of a snake. :help: But, can look at eggs, dreaming a bird will pop out. :roflmao2:
Shirley
06-16-2005, 11:41 PM
OK, better? I was linking to pics posted on TRT... I've done that before... can't remember which ones... wonder why the red X? I saw real PICS! :D
Thanks for telling me!
*Bill speaks still from the floor*
Shirley...I can see them now! *Bill faints once again* What a whimp!
My goodness, what will he do with all the babies when they hatch?
Shirley
06-16-2005, 11:43 PM
I'm with you Bill! :agree: I hate the sight of a snake. :help: But, can look at eggs, dreaming a bird will pop out. :roflmao2:
Jean, our first clutch of "found" eggs we were just sure were speckled king snake eggs, and the boys and I waited anxiously for nearly 2 months in Louisiana when they were little... and then the big day came! And out came 14 little red-ear slider turtles! We were so surprised! And delighted!
The snakes are amazingly tame, completely harmless, dry to touch, no slime, as safe as a little society finch. They never bite, and if they did, it would feel like Velcro... a piece of cake next to a parrot bite! :)
Shirley, I guess, it is normal to fear what we don't know or understand. I've never been around snakes and really never want to be around them... "Jean" .....running scared ahead of Bill. :roflmao2: :roflmao2:
Shirley, that is quite a surprise........ turtle, snake, hatching experience!
Shirley
06-16-2005, 11:49 PM
OK, here I am with an unusually tame Emerald Tree Boa at a reptile fair, and Annie with one of Troy's snakes. I used to take Pitre to school when I taught in Louisiana, and the kids would let him curl around their necks as they did their seatwork. Very calming fellow, he was.
You know our birds evolved from reptiles... snakes and lizards.... just add fur and legs to a snake and you'd all want one. Look at the gorgeous patterns and colors on a snake, and the colors the Native Americans use... and you see reptiles and amphibians everywhere by design and color. Corn snakes are constrictors, so they are slow and docile by nature. They don't move quickly by choice.
Shirley
06-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Shirley, I guess, it is normal to fear what we don't know or understand.
That is very true! The more I've learned about Troy's tarantulas, the less I fear them. I will never hold one -- if they fall, they die... but the more I know, the less I fear.
I've had women at school hold Pitre, who was remarkably beautiful - a red albino corn - pink eyes and white where black should be on the body, and pink instead of brown - women who were terrified of snakes would end up holding Pitre saying "He's just to pretty to be afraid of". And he was a very special calm snake. He posed on a branch all day in the art room for the high schoolers' to draw... uncaged, I wasn't there but to check in now and then, and the art teacher did just fine with a somewhat fear of snakes, and Pitre just hung out on the large branch, not moving much throughout the day... a perfect living model of 3-D color and texture for the kids to draw and paint.
Thanks for the pics and briefing on corn snakes.I can remember my dad catching one when I was about 6 yrs old. He and my brother had it around their neck while I was running.................. as far and as fast as I could. My fright of snakes and lizards started when I was a small child when a lizard ran across my bare foot.
I'll wait till they grow legs, beaks, and feathers then I will be there with open arms.
Shirley
06-16-2005, 11:58 PM
My goodness, what will he do with all the babies when they hatch?
Annie wants one... but this time I'm telling her mother only if her father will let her keep it at her house... she had a baby before and lost it here and it got caught under the sofa on some sticky tape and lost its life :( Her mother loves them; her father is terrified of them.
a couple petshops near IU want to buy them -- only if we run out of homes, which will be doubtful... we are keeping at least two of them... (we got Pitre, their grandfather, when Trevor was 3 and Troy was 6) someone on TRT has been wanting one for about a year now... hope they all hatch!! :woot:
Shirley
06-17-2005, 12:04 AM
Jean, I used to be really afraid of snakes as a child in the country on a farm, but truly fascinated by them at the same time. I would try to catch one at the creek, then get so terrified I would fling it far back into the water, then feel horribly guilty that I may have scared the snake! I've never been bit...just had this jittery fear -- not the same fear as the spider fear at all. Then the boys came along, and they LOVED all the reptiles... and then Pitre joined us as a 3-yr-old adult... and what a lovely addition he was to the family... and then my fear just melted away altogether and I have a healthy respect for the poisonous snakes, but not a fear, so to speak. I would not keep a snake that could harm a child or baby. That ruled out boas. I love them; they are beautiful, and we had a runt red-tail boa for a year 'til it passed away (it never grew normally; remained very small) but I would not keep any pet that could hurt children when I had children in the house all the time.
It is good you over came your snake fear. Our sons were interested in mini bikes, go carts, motorcycles, and dune buggy's so they never really showed an interest for any reptiles. If it had a motor and tires they loved it.:emot-danc
Shirley
06-17-2005, 12:23 AM
That's a good point... my sons' interests have "turned me on" to so many new things that otherwise I would have missed ... and snakes and all the other reptiles being one of them (Troy's initially) I learned about snakes, which was a fascination of mine, but my parents were not "facilitators" of that interest... so it never was developed until Troy and Trevor came along...
And if it had been the minibikes and such, then I'd have learned about them! :) Whatever their interest... I became the grand facilitator and learned right along with them... or more often, they taught me!
That is the way it was around our house! I learned all about go carts, dune buggies, rear and mid engines, superchargers, what a crown kit was and what it did installed in the supercharger. different gear ratios in the tranny's for racing or climbing. Why aluminum diamond cut flooring was the best to install in the buggy. Why we used commercial off road racing harness/safety belts. Which paddle tire was the best to use in the sand dunes. Why aircraft bolts made more sence then regular bolts on a buggy that took off road abuse. You jogged my memory from long ago.
Shirley
06-17-2005, 12:46 AM
Wow! How cool! You just threw out some terms I've heard my brother say from way back when!
Now... I had diamond-cut chrome running boards and mudflaps on my truck in Louisiana... loved 'em! Why are they better?
They are lightweight, good shoe grip, to avoid slip and fall accidents getting in and out,and easy to maintain!
Oh yes, it looks pretty too!
SadennaAndFlock
06-17-2005, 01:31 AM
To cool..now are both Sam & Ella pure Okeetees are are they Het or split to something else...one thing I have learned about cornsnakes you never know whats in their background so you never know what your going to get it's like christmas....lol hope they all hatch out safe.
Shirley
06-17-2005, 01:55 AM
They are full siblings... :eek: and Pitre is a red albino (amelanistic) corn and their mother is a normal corn, maybe she had Okeetee in her background as she looked a bit Okeetee but not a true Okeetee. I probably have a print photo of her somewhere... we did not have her for very long... she was given to us, they bred, she laid the eggs, then we gave her to someone else.
Pitre was a jewel in personality and a true beauty! I'll have to scan a photo to show him to you.
None of these will look like Pitre... unfortunately... unless by some fluke their mother carried the red albino gene, which I doubt... Pitre was the most striking amelanistic I've ever seen... just brilliantly colored! Both of Pitre's parents were red albino (amelanistic) as well... but he was even more brilliantly colored than they were.
SadennaAndFlock
06-22-2005, 01:34 PM
being that sam and ella are siblings wouldn't that mean there could be problems with the babies deformities and such as can happen with inbreeding?..hopefully these babies will all come out normal and healthy...
Shirley
06-22-2005, 03:07 PM
Well, time will tell... about early to mid August.
I've seen the defects happen as easily with non-relateds as with relateds... depends on the gene pool and what recessives are hanging around that manage to get matched up.
In the very olden days... the wealthy were very much married to not-so-distant relatives... cousins and such. They wanted to keep their wealth, among other things, in the family... :rolleyes:
~ Shirley
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