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arcadiareptiles
01-31-2008, 05:17 PM
I didnt even get to know you and your already gone :(. I'm so sorry baby. Sorry you didnt even get to experience the joy's life could bring. Instead you died in hiding in your cozy.

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Kirby
01-31-2008, 05:44 PM
I'm so sorry Camille!!!

He had a great home with you and Chiko!!! It's always so hard to wake up and find out that something like this has happened.

I went through the same thing with my barn Kitten a few years ago. I was the only person who could hold him and he would sit in my vest pocket while i went out for rides. He would always come running and mewing to "BABY" no matter where I was.
One day, I went up to the hay loft with my horse and my kitten didn't come running when I called him. And I found him curled in the smallest ball dead.

Your little Baby may be gone, but he will fly over you watching and he will be heard through Chiko's voice!

arcadiareptiles
01-31-2008, 05:53 PM
I still want to get another love bird(I hope it doesent make a bad person out of me) But This time. I will get it from a really reputible breeder i know. And i will be able to go hand pick one.

This has gotten me so broken up. I just had a feeling something was wrong when he was hiding all the time :(. I just feel like if i would have gotten him to the vet now instead of waiting for him to settle in, things would maybe have been different.

Kirby
01-31-2008, 06:18 PM
It's hard with something so small.

I don't know what might've caused his death... could've been anything. Him hiding in his happy hut I don't think would give us a hint on how his health was as he was scared/stressed etc... so hiding was his way of dealing with it.

The stress could've just overloaded his little system. But i think the best route to go (like i mentioned to you on msn) is to get him autopsied before you bring another bird into the house.

Even if his death was stress related, you want to rule out possibly something you could spread to more birds as well a ruling out it spreading to your Chiko.

If his body is safe and he has nothing to spread, then possibly get another lovie (when you feel the time is right for you!) Before you bring a new one home however, it would be wise to get it vetted for PBFD and any other diseases that could be spread and fatal!

(((HUGS)))

arcadiareptiles
01-31-2008, 06:37 PM
It's hard with something so small.

I don't know what might've caused his death... could've been anything. Him hiding in his happy hut I don't think would give us a hint on how his health was as he was scared/stressed etc... so hiding was his way of dealing with it.

The stress could've just overloaded his little system. But i think the best route to go (like i mentioned to you on msn) is to get him autopsied before you bring another bird into the house.

Even if his death was stress related, you want to rule out possibly something you could spread to more birds as well a ruling out it spreading to your Chiko.

If his body is safe and he has nothing to spread, then possibly get another lovie (when you feel the time is right for you!) Before you bring a new one home however, it would be wise to get it vetted for PBFD and any other diseases that could be spread and fatal!

(((HUGS)))

I'm deffinetly bringing him to be autopsied. Just waiting for my local bird group to reccomend me a vet.

Only thing though is that the breeder said he would replace the bird and is bringing one over tomorrow.Its the only one left(Babys brother or sister from the clutch). I think he might have gotten his claw stuck in his tent :(. I was looking and his leg was a little twisted. Im still getting an autopsie to make sure. and both birds are going to the vet for full bloodwork etc.

scotty
01-31-2008, 06:38 PM
Oh I am so sorry!!! but don't blame yourself, The bird had a problem it wasn't you.It may be best to have an Autopsy done to be sure he wasn't a sick bird, that may spread to Chico.I would call the breeder and tell her what happened, to be sure some of her other birds didn't have the same fate.We all have are stories of woah, my daughter took her beloved Canary to have his nails trimmed and he wen't into shock and passed.I know how much you loved Baby, my heart goes out to you :heart: {{HUGS}}

SummerJ
01-31-2008, 07:48 PM
Camille,
I am so sorry to hear about Baby. It has been about a week since I have been on, so I hadn't read that you had gotten him yet. Try not to blame this on yourself. I know you are very caring about your pets, and I can't imagine that there was anything you could have done to prevent this.:heart:
Janet

Ellen K. Cook, DVM
01-31-2008, 07:48 PM
Oh Camille-I am so sorry you lost your baby-my heart goes out to you :tighthug:

You have received excellent advice. A necropsy would give us the best information about what did or didn't happen with your baby. Sometimes we don't find anything, but then we know it is not something that would hurt our other birds. I wouldn't hestitate to take the breeder up on the replacement offer if everything checks out OK on that bird when taken for an exam.

You are in my heart and prayers tonight :heart:

arcadiareptiles
01-31-2008, 08:38 PM
Oh Camille-I am so sorry you lost your baby-my heart goes out to you :tighthug:

You have received excellent advice. A necropsy would give us the best information about what did or didn't happen with your baby. Sometimes we don't find anything, but then we know it is not something that would hurt our other birds. I wouldn't hestitate to take the breeder up on the replacement offer if everything checks out OK on that bird when taken for an exam.

You are in my heart and prayers tonight :heart:

I asked around. The only problem is that The only place that is able to do a necropsy is in fredericton(3 hours from here) and we dont own a car. it also costs 500$ for a necropsy and it has to be done within 2-4 days and we really dont have the money at this moment(Rent is this week!). Paying for the necropsy doesent bother me, It's just paying for it this week is impossible and by next check, the body wouldnt be of use anymore.

Im still trying to find out who that supposed avian vet was in moncton. She's not a qualified avian vet but she works with birds. Supposedly there are no qualified avian vets in New Brunswick(Same with reptile vets)

I'm going to weight chiko and keep an eye on his weight, make sure he doesent lose any while im questing to find the avian vet. As soon as i find her I'll bring chiko and the new bird in for a checkup. While that happens. The baby will be in quarenteen away from chiko. And chiko wont be aloud anywhere near the room. It's the only thing i can do for now. :shrug2:. We still have the body refrigerated Just in case something happens that we find a way to get a necropsy done.

Jim
01-31-2008, 08:38 PM
Oh Cammile, I'm so, so sorry to hear this.:tighthug: I have no words to express how I feel.

Fly free little one, in the land of peace. :flower:

Deanna
01-31-2008, 08:46 PM
:flower: Camille and Al :tighthug: ... I'm stunned. I am deeply, terribly sorry for your loss. I wish I had words ... they seem to escape me at the moment.

Bless you and keep you.

Wind to thy wings. Fly free. :(

Ellen K. Cook, DVM
01-31-2008, 08:49 PM
I'm going to weight chiko and keep an eye on his weight, make sure he doesent lose any while im questing to find the avian vet. As soon as i find her I'll bring chiko and the new bird in for a checkup. While that happens. The baby will be in quarenteen away from chiko. And chiko wont be aloud anywhere near the room. It's the only thing i can do for now. :shrug2:. We still have the body refrigerated Just in case something happens that we find a way to get a necropsy done.


That is a good plan, Camille. I wish you lived closer to me! If you don't already have scales, get some, so you can check the baby's weight.

Lucas was 4 months old and parent-raised when I got him. With millet as positive reinforcement, I had him stepping up and onto the scale perch in about a week. Probably could have done it quicker if I had more time to spend with him.

Again, I am very, very sorry for your loss.

Shirley
01-31-2008, 08:51 PM
Camille, I"m so very sorry! It's not your fault - and it's not "stress". Sometimes an organ system just fails, and you have no way of knowing until it happens. I'm so very sorry! I would also take a replacement from the breeder - and take it for an exam before you expose it to your home - quarantine. Meanwhile, watch Chiko, weigh him, but don't worry. I would bet he's fine.

I'll sure be thinking of you!

tropiclegirl
01-31-2008, 09:08 PM
:omy: OH NO Chamille, i am so so sorry. My heart breaks for you :tighthug:

Budgie
01-31-2008, 09:24 PM
Wow, I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sure the next bird will be a much better transition and things will go smoothly. I think your plan of quarantining and check ups for both birds is a good one.

arcadiareptiles
01-31-2008, 09:24 PM
Yeah. it breaks my heart because he was just a baby and he never had the time to experience the joys life could bring.

But Im also happy that i will be getting his brother or sister. A connection to Baby.He or she won't replace him. But I'll be able to give him the love and patience Baby would have gotten

He offered me a 3 year old male pied cockatiel he had gotten for a breeder but i prefered getting Baby's brother or sister.

Shirley
01-31-2008, 11:18 PM
Camille, I'm so glad you can take his sibling. I think that is a wise decision all the way around - and my heart just breaks over this -- I just returned from an emergency trip to Dr. Cook's with Skyler - left as I posted my first post to you -- I'll post about him elsewhere.

I lost a parrotlet about 2 weeks after he fledged -- that was truly heartbreaking! He hatched here and I had raised him.

I'm so sorry! :(

Sue
02-01-2008, 06:41 AM
Camille I'm so so sorry. He was such a sweetie:heart:

RIP Sweet Baby:wub:

CocosMomma
02-01-2008, 03:16 PM
OH, Camille, I am so sorry, shocked and saddened. My heart goes out to you and Al. I know that Al loved Baby too, and that the two of you make the best possible parents for all your beloved animal-friends. I am glad the two of you have each other for comfort at such a difficult time.:heart:

Wind to the wings, baby; fly free.

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

PattiB
02-02-2008, 01:44 PM
Oh Camille - I am so sorry to learn of this - I have had a very busy week and have not been on the board - I am shocked. You, Al & Chicko will be in my thoughts and prayers, also new baby! Getting them to an avian vet for testing is a great idea - as you just never know what is going on inside - I am sure that you didn't do anything - I would have thought the same thing about Baby "hiding" he was scared and in a new environment - you never could have known anything different.

Please take care! :tighthug: