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Shirley
12-01-2005, 11:12 PM
Today Nicky, 9 mo old Rose-breasted Cockatoo, fell on his wing and broke one his primary flight feathers, the only one actually that he has. He was "over-clipped" as a fledgling, probably never allowed to fledge, and this was his only new-grown flight feather and it was nearly grown in. Troy ran into my office to tell me about it, holding the broken feather in his hand, fresh blood on the end.

We went back to the dining room, tried to examine Nicky, who was quite loud and biting quite hard, but we remained calm and are "used to the noise and the biting of a scared bird", so no reaction from us other than reassuring Nicky. We had to towel him to find where the feather had come from. He was flapping so hard we both had blood on our shirts and on the dining room table. I can't explain, but we were both extremely calm throughout this ordeal. I think being a mom has something to do with this. Troy grabbed the avian clotting powder from the shelf above the 'fridge, where all the avian meds and first-aid supplies are kept, and we packed the 1/2" long soda straw primary and held it shut for as long as Nicky would let us. As his breathing got heavier, turning to panting, we released him. It seemed the bleeding had stopped. In case you don't know, the blood feathers *are* like a soda straw when broken and blood will drip from them, sometimes not clotting on their own quickly enough, and sometimes irritating the bird later such that they can start bleeding later on when messed with by the bird. You cannot pull a primary from the wing b/c it grows from a follicle deep in the wing bone, and it would be extremely painful to pull that from the bird. You can, however, pull with hemastats, a broken tail feather.

We watched him, no blood. A few minutes later, two small pools of blood on the newspapers below him. We re-treated the area with the avian clotting powder (like styptic powder) and held it shut again. This time I put him in the spare cockatiel cage which was already set up by Steve's recliner as a spare sleeping cage for Nicky as needed. No bleeding. Checked 15 minutes later... two small pools of blood and his side was red with blood. I called Dr. Cook - her day off. She asked a few questions and said to meet her at the clinic, 10 min from my house.

She assessed the situation, and then put him under anesthesia with a breathing mask (I was with him the entire time, along with her two assistants) and she extracted the broken feather out of the bone. Once out of the bone, it was almost 2" long! She noticed three others broken flush with the bone from ages ago, extracted those (no bleeding), and now those three can grow back quickly. She said his wing clip looked like the breeder just clipped him as he "flew by". She removed his leg band while he was under, and then removed the mask and he woke up right away. He was semi-conscious off and on as her assistant monitored and turned the anesthesia slightly up and down throughout the entire process, listening to his vitals all the time.

After he woke up and was able to sit up, they washed him up to get all the clotted and dried blood off his side and off his wing. They have something similar to a stainless steel rack over their wash tub, like a refrigerator shelf, that they sit small animals and birds on, and wash them with a gentle sprayer, and the water falls through as the bird sits on top of the grate. I liked that, and might set something like that up in the bathtub at home.

I drove him home at 2:30 and he was allowed to eat at 5:00 and he's been back to his usual self since about 7:00. He loves his head scritches, and he's not allowed to be on the tree stand or the playstand on top of his cage until all his tail feathers grow in (they are about 1/3 grown in -- about 14 of them all at once! The were all broken off short when he came to us, and I pulled them all out so he'd get new ones.) and until he gets at least a couple flights on each side so he doesn't drop like a rock. I do not understand why so many breeders over-clip their babies! All our birds except Shelby were over-clipped as babies...

If you haven't met Nicky yet, his photos are in the Cockatoo forum...

I'm very grateful to Dr. Cook and her compassion for all animals. She held him in a towel like a baby after his bath and just rocked him and scritched him and talked to him so sweetly. :heart:

Jean
12-01-2005, 11:38 PM
Boy, you did have a hectic afternoon. :tighthug: It's good that Troy was there and noticed what had happened when he did. it sounds like the sequence of your actions that followed were right on. it's good Dr Cook was available today. I am glad the baby is alright. :clap:

Big hand to you, Troy and Dr Cook. :goodjob:

Junkzoo
12-02-2005, 12:59 AM
Wow Shirley! Looks like you had a busy day down there! Glad that everything went well, and the "after the incident"(the feather breaking) had ALL the right things happen.
IE:(1) Troy "catching " it, you BOTH being calm n cool during this.

(i remember when Sinbad hooked one of those shower curtain type clips thru his lower beak, the fleshy part behind the beak.I was a nervous mess during the restraining/removal of the clip,,,This was early on in my parrot keeping days,b4 i knew better to have those dern things in a cage:doh: )

(2) Having a first aid kit at the ready for things like this.
(3)Knowing what to do for this sort of emergency.
(4) Having Dr. Cook so close to you, and at the ready to help(Note to everyone here, do you have the number for your nearby Avian(or general vet if no avian vet is available for you? :scratchch if emergencies like this occur?)
(5)And doing all the need follow up after the procedure.
(6) Having a helper to assist in any way,hopefully knowledgable in what is/might be expected of them.

I can picture you two doing the needed prelims b4 heading over to Dr. Cook's, i bet you two worked like a well oiled machine:agree: :thumbup:

Nicky was one lucky 'Too, in the fact that this happened while in your care.
I shudder to think the outcome if the scenario had other variables.

As i read your post Shirley, i followed along knowing things were in great hands, from start to finish:goodjob:

So glad things went well from this ordeal:highfive:

And BTW, glad you passed along the info about NOT pulling a primary, up until you mentioned it, i was under the impression that would have been the common course of action for that situation,,,good thing too, it's minutes b4 midnite, and i was afraid that i would NOT learn anything today, LOL:rotflmao:

Again, So glad things went well from all this today, and give Nicky scritches from me, and the rest of us here!:wub:

Jim
12-02-2005, 02:24 AM
OMG Shirley!!! what a scary thing to happen. :tighthug: Good thing Troy was there, it's pretty darn hard to hold a toweled bird and try to look at a wing by yourself. Dr. Cook is a great person, I'm glad you have her as a friend and so close.

You did excellent in my book :goodjob:

I have read more than once where people were letting the flights grow out on a 'too had to keep then in smaller cages than they liked with less or that lest very supervised/restricted play time. If I remember right they said it was because 'toos play so hard and are so active if all the flights aren't all the way in (to protect each other) they break them and the cycle goes on and on.

On a side note. Have you been able to see any change in Skyler yet?

Shirley
12-02-2005, 09:29 AM
Thank you, everyone! Nicky is fine this morning.

I learned from Dr. Cook last year not to ever pull a flight from the wingbone. I'd not known this before. That was when Skyler broke three flights at the bone, flush with it, while visiting Ginny in Florida. He was finally just getting his flights and trying to fly, not scared, just trying to fly, and he hit the floor wrong once and the wall about a foot above the floor once and they snapped off, very little bleeding since it was flush with the bone. So when we got back home, I told Dr. Cook b/c I knew it would be forever before he would molt and grow them back. That's when he was put under and they were extracted... and I learned never pull flights from the wings -- boy are they ever embedded deep in the bone!! And she explained all that to me then. Thank heavens for that -- it prepared me for yesterday.

Second -- Troy is very calm in emergencies (he's had chemicals splashed in his eyes, had to call hazmat and campus police to the lab when he was an AI at Ind. Univ when a student blew up a jar of chemicals when the student forgot to loosen the lid on the jar while heating the solid chem to a liquid - the explosion was heard all over 1st floor) He's been to the ER for chem burns on his arm and hands (no scars, thank heavens) so he was calm as ever, and being his and Trevor's (the dare-devil) mom -- being calm comes pretty naturally in emergencies, and it helps keep the bird calm. Actually, I think everyone becomes naturally calmer after they raise kids.

Third, besides sharing the events, I hoped to pass on the learning and such.

I have Dr. Cook's office, home, and cell in my speed dial of my cell. Her bus. card is taped to our kitchen cabinet with other important numbers, and also to the headboard of my bed, next to the phone. She's given me permission to call her at any of these places for avian emergencies. She has two other vets (pus herself) for dog/cat emergencies, and I'd call the office for that. Her love and devotion to the avian world is priceless, and just her spiritual presence in the room calms the animals. She immediately is talking sweetly to them from start to finish. She's sure to be socializing with them before they leave, not just "clinical" with them.

This morning, she emailed me to be sure Nicky is watched for signs of aggression or phobia... not to expect too much of him, to give him loads of positive reinforcement for awhile. He hissed at her yesterday a few times after he woke up.

He's fine today, and very affectionate. I'll crate Sonja (Schnauzer) and put the coffee table size Bourke's play gym on our coffee table for him to play on. Short fall if he falls. It's a decently large playgym, just not a tall one. And it's manzanita.

We're always learning...

Sue
12-02-2005, 10:44 AM
OMG Shirley, how awful, so glad Nicky is fine now!:wub: I learned something from your post too.:thanx:


Strange about the calm thing:scratchch Long story so I won't go into detail but we were once on a plane that had a fire in the cockpit when the lights went off and the burning smell got stronger people started to panic and start screaming, the crew were trying to calm people, the girl next to me was really hysterical, to my surprise I was VERY calm, I'm not saying I wasn't scared but I was helping calm her down., i suppose if I had kicked off she would have been worse. We had to drop fuel and the plane decended at speed which got people panicing again. It was half an hour before we landed but I was fine, I remember thinking " if we go at least we're together". We landed safely but when I looked out the window we were surrounded by fire engines, that did make my heart lurch but I was trying to not let her see out of the window, she was on the aisle seat.
I've never had kids so I'm not sure about the mother theory.:confused:

Sue
12-02-2005, 10:46 AM
Oh and I meant to say, ask Dr Cook if she would like to live in England, there is a house next door and one across the road for sale:funny: Could you IMAGINE living next door to her:woot: :woot:

Shirley
12-02-2005, 01:05 PM
Sue -- I'm not sure about the "calm theory" either, as I've known others who haven't had kids be really calm in a crisis. It's like something kicks in and common sense takes over and takes charge.

I'll tell Dr. Cook what you said! I'm sure she'll get a kick out of that! :agree: :wub:

Jim -- Skyler hasn't changed yet... it's hard to tell while he's still having to wear his collar. Unfortunately, Troy has felt sorry for him and taken it off of him a few times and he's consequently picked a large area underneath his wings and on his sides...yet he preens his feathers that aren't near the bare area. I think if he gets a chance to regrow those feathers, we might see an improvement. He doesn't feel like playing with his collar on, only feels like chewing his cardboard chew ring. Troy isn't taking his collar off anymore. He realizes it's counterproductive.

parrotgirl
12-02-2005, 01:38 PM
OMG, I'm so glad that Nicky is okay, give him hugs and scritches from us here:heart: I know about the calm thing, when Bucc got his wing caught in the bars of cage I was very calm and even though he was biting and very scared I managed to get him out. Then I'm afraid I let myself down. When he was safe I went to pieces.:doh: I have also learnt something today so thank you for that. Well done Shirley, Troy for staying calm and Dr Cook for being Dr Cook.